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Re: [opensuse-project] Re: [election-officials] Asking for delaying the elections

Added by RBrownCCB about 6 years ago. Updated about 6 years ago.

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On 29 March 2018 at 21:00, Kostas Koudaras warlordfff@gmail.com wrote:

2018-03-29 19:22 GMT+03:00 Ana Martínez anamma06@gmail.com:

Hi,

According to our Wiki[1], during the campaign-phase there should be:

1 - plenty of blog entries on the upcoming election by the candidates
2 - interviews with all candidates by the openSUSE news team
3 - a moderated Q&A session on IRC possibly during one of the regular
Project meetings or a separate meeting

All the candidates have written a platform, so we could consider 1 as
done. But 2 and 3 haven't been done. Taking into account that the
elections starts on Monday and that tomorrow is public holiday in many
part of the world, I think this is not acceptable and that we can not
consider the campaign-phase as done. How is people going to decide who
to vote if they don't know who we are? Because of that I would like to
ask for delaying the elections.

You may wonder why 2 and 3 haven't been done. I think that their
organisation have started too late and we didn't manage to do it on
time. The openSUSE news team is already working on the interviews (2)
and they will be published as soon as they received the answers from
all the candidates. It could even be that it is published before the
voting period starts. In the case of the moderated Q&A session on IRC
(3) it was maybe not sure who should organised it. I have expected the
elections team to do it, but there is actually no reason why we (the
candidates) can not organise it alone. I have already send them a
Doodle and I hope we can announce a date rather sooner than later.

I know that this is not optimal and I am really sorry if someone
doesn't like my email. But I personally do not feel well if, after
saying in my platform[2] that I want the board to work transparent,
the first thing I do is skipping our own rules without any
explanation. I really do not pretend to blame anybody with this email.
I just want that we have some more time to make a good campaign, so
that openSUSE members have the chance to choose the people who better
represent what they think openSUSE should be.

Regards,

Ana

Dear Ana
I admire your passion on doing things right(I really do), but there
are a few things that you do not consider or know so here lies the
explanation you asked on my behalf. 2nd for sure and I do not remember
about the 3rd are there since the days both me and Chuck were at the
(so called back then) marketing team that put them there, the reason
why none of them ever happened is because of the different time zones
and candidates schedules which were never so far got aligned. I read
the mails you candidates sent the last couple days and you stepped on
to those same issues.
Now what really heart my feelings is that tomorrow is not a public
holiday for many of us, actually for me as an Orthodox is the weekend
the elections end and instead of spending Sunday with my family I will
be spending time for the election results and I am not nagging as it
is 100% my choice because that was the only way I could find to help
the project. Also not all volunteers are volunteers only onworking
hours(the opposite I would say as many are doing it on their free
time, on weekends etc) so for me that is not an issue and it is unfair
to put yourself in that position.
As stated by Knurpht ,at the end of the day voters consider
contributions not campaigns. The campaign is there to make clearer to
the voters a bit more about your vision for where you want the project
to go if you get elected, at least this is how I see it.
Long story short my opinion on the matter you raise as an election
committee member is that things stay as are because I think that this
is the best for the elections. If Chuck or the board think otherwise
then we should talk about it but I value that this should be done the
next hours so that things have a change to go smooth.
Just to be fair you are 100% right on theory and I really believe that
if me and Chuck had more time available maybe we would have done a
better job at it but we were the only who even volunteered for it and
this is the best we can do under the circumstances.
You can agree or not but all of the above are my personal opinion.
Best regards
Kostas

Hi all,

I think we have quite a pickle here

On one side I see Kostas' point of view and accept that in the past
we've run elections while being very lax with the campaign side of
things.

On the other, I see Ana's point of view. This is something we should
spend the time to do right.

I feel Kostas' and Knurpht's points actually support Ana's point.

Ana is a relatively new contributor to the project, but as we can
clearly see a very passionate and driven one.

I think we do her, and other similar candidates, a disservice if we do
not give them adequate time to campaign, and if we do not give the
opportunities we advertise we will during the campaign.

It's important the Board is not only full of long time contributors
who got their purely on their name recognition on account of their
being around for so long.
The reason the election process was written the way it was is
precisely to give opportunity for new faces with new ideas, to join
the Board, if the community elect them.
I think it's important we stick to those principles and give ever
candidate a fair chance at being elected.

The election committee are volunteers, with other jobs, family lives.
If it sounds like I'm being critical of them I want it clearly
understood that I cast no blame on them.
It's just a fact of life that this year the elections haven't managed
to have everything organised in the time expected.

In retrospect I also think the decision to transition from the
campaign to the voting period of the election during the Easter
weekend was a stupid one, and while the election committee are wholly
responsible for the conduct of the election, I do think the Board
could have done a better job of challenging that decision.

So here we are, about to start voting on the elections and with
candidates raising valid concerns that proper procedures haven't been
followed.

I believe a decision on this has to be made by the election committee.

I believe the Board should have no direct say in this matter - given
half of the Board is up for re-election, the very subject of this
topic, the risk of conflict of interest is rather high.

As the campaign was meant to end this Easter weekend, and the voting
meant to start this Easter weekend, I think it is unacceptable to
expect the Election Committee to make a decision this weekend.

Therefore, in my role as unelected Chairman, responsible for ensuring
continuity in the Project's Board, I'm making an executive decision to
temporarily delay the start of voting period, in order to give the
Election Committee time to consider their decision.

Dear openSUSE admins, please make sure no actions are made to start
the voting on Apr 2 unless you hear otherwise from the Election
Commitee.

This pause is expected to last no longer than it takes for the
Election Committee to decide what to do.
This pause therefore may be meaningless if the Committee decide to
before Apr 2. But as Kostas has pointed out, it's Easter, and the
chance of that is pretty slim.

The Election Committee should feel absolutely free to decide as they
see fit. I will wholly and utterly support whatever decision they make
in either direction.

They've been entrusted to run these elections. This exceptional
executive decision on my part should not be seen as anything other
than an administrative necessity to give them a little more time to
consider this matter.

But I believe there is a valid dispute that needs to be considered,
and due to the public holiday this exceptional decision needs to be
made to give the committee the time they need to decide.

Best Regards,

Richard Brown


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