openSUSE admin

I discussed this with Felix on IRC and will put a short summary into the ticket.

According to the mail log on anna.infra.o.o, Felix should have received 37 mails today - all accepted by mx*.earthlink.net, for example:

... relay=mx8.earthlink.net[207.69.189.231]:25, delay=1.7, delays=0.04/0/0.69/0.99, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 1IrHkL52U3PGoUi0 Message accepted for delivery)

It turned out that the earthlink.net spam filter threw away the mails after telling us that the mail was accepted and delivered (which is a bad idea, and (at least in germany) even legally problematic).

Felix added opensuse.org to the spamfilter whitelist, so we can easily spam him^WW deliver mailinglist mails now.

Dmarc OK

Dmarc OK

Dmarc OK

Hi Felix

seeing as this issue is currently assigned to me - what are you trying to say with those screenshots?

Patience pjessen. Gotta give a guy time to finish getting thoughts straight and typing.

Dmarc FAILURE

I didn't give Earthlink's recommendation enough time. Adding to address book does not help materially. Most opensuse.org list mail continues to be directed into "Known Spam" "folder". The only way out is supposedly to either repeatedly (multiple times every day) go back to web mail and flag each individual email as "not spam", or to have Earthlink.net spam filtering entirely disabled. So far I've only tried the individual email unflagging. It's completely breaking thread conversationality not having posts arrive in timely fashion.

I contacted Earthlink.net support again about this (4th time in 3 weeks). Support escalation explained to me that all email not coming from "secure servers" will be going into the "Known Spam" folder until such time as all tabled tests from https://mxtoolbox.com/ MX Lookup show green as seen on the facebook, google and yahoo examples. Also explained this is not going to be unique to Earthlink.net, that all email service providers will soon be requiring servers to be "secure".

mrmazda wrote:

Patience pjessen. Gotta give a guy time to finish getting thoughts straight and typing.

Dmarc FAILURE

Okay Felix :-)

Yes, we don't currently use DMARC. Not for the lists nor for the member aliases. We also don't publish any SPF record.

I contacted Earthlink.net support again about this (4th time in 3 weeks). Support escalation explained to me that all email not coming from "secure servers" will be going into the "Known Spam" folder until such time as all tabled tests from https://mxtoolbox.com/ MX Lookup show green as seen on the facebook, google and yahoo examples. Also explained this is not going to be unique to Earthlink.net, that all email service providers will soon be requiring servers to be "secure".

We are planning a move to our own email servers in the near future, hopefully Q1 2020. I promise we will look into adding DMARC for opensuse.org. TBH, Earthlink insisting on filtering out everyone who does not use DMARC is certainly one way of reducing the load. (I'll send you a mail from my private address, also without DMARC).

Felix, I'm going to close this for the time being. Feel free to re-open.