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tickets #151996

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opensuse mailing lists?

Added by dave@howorth.org.uk 5 months ago. Updated 5 months ago.

Status:
Resolved
Priority:
Normal
Assignee:
Category:
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Target version:
-
Start date:
2023-12-04
Due date:
% Done:

100%

Estimated time:

Description

It looks to me like the opensuse mailing lists are down. I haven't
received anything since 1 Dec and I don't see anything in the archives
either. I'm talking about support@lists.opensuse.org and
users@lists.opensuse.org

What's going on?


Related issues 1 (0 open1 closed)

Has duplicate openSUSE admin - tickets #151687: Problems with the factory mailing list? - Or is it just me?Resolved2023-11-29

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Actions #1

Updated by pjessen 5 months ago

  • Private changed from Yes to No

Hi Dave
I was beginning to wonder myself, but the lists seem okay. I ran a test on test.lists, no prob.

Actions #2

Updated by pjessen 5 months ago

Have just done a restart. I didn't notice any immediate rush of postings.

Actions #3

Updated by pjessen 5 months ago

Hmm, I notice some postings being held in shunt - will investigate.

Actions #4

Updated by pjessen 5 months ago

  • Assignee set to crameleon

pjessen wrote in #note-3:

Hmm, I notice some postings being held in shunt - will investigate.

The shunting seems to be due to:

Dec 04 07:59:38 2023 (27237) Cached copy of public suffix list is out of date
Dec 04 07:59:38 2023 (27237) Uncaught runner exception: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='publicsuffix.org', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /list/public_suffix_list.dat (Ca
used by NewConnectionError('<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0x7f3f03d9c1d0>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 101] Network is unreachable'))

I think that is fall-out from the datacenter move.

mailman3 (lists.o.o):/var/log/mailman # ping  publicsuffix.org
PING publicsuffix.org(2600:1901:0:4c10:: (2600:1901:0:4c10::)) 56 data bytes
From 2a07:de40:b27e:1203::3 (2a07:de40:b27e:1203::3) icmp_seq=1 Destination unreachable: Administratively prohibited
From 2a07:de40:b27e:1203::3 (2a07:de40:b27e:1203::3) icmp_seq=2 Destination unreachable: Administratively prohibited
Actions #5

Updated by pjessen 5 months ago

I have manually updated public_suffix_list.dat in /usr/lib/python3.11/site-packages/mailman/rules/data (I hope it is the right one).

Actions #6

Updated by pjessen 5 months ago

Have now also updated the cached copy in /var/lib/mailman.

Actions #7

Updated by crameleon 5 months ago

  • Assignee changed from crameleon to pjessen
  • % Done changed from 0 to 50

Here you go:

crameleon@mailman3:/home/crameleon> ping -c2 publicsuffix.org
PING publicsuffix.org(2600:1901:0:4c10:: (2600:1901:0:4c10::)) 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 2600:1901:0:4c10:: (2600:1901:0:4c10::): icmp_seq=1 ttl=117 time=1.24 ms
64 bytes from 2600:1901:0:4c10:: (2600:1901:0:4c10::): icmp_seq=2 ttl=117 time=1.29 ms

--- publicsuffix.org ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1002ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.236/1.261/1.287/0.025 ms

crameleon@mailman3:/home/crameleon> curl -sI https://publicsuffix.org|grep ^HTTP
HTTP/2 200
Actions #8

Updated by dave@howorth.org.uk 5 months ago

Thanks Per,

I just got a whole bunch of messages from earlier in November plus a
new thread started today, so hopefully things are back to normal now.

Cheers, Dave

On Mon, 04 Dec 2023 13:08:59 +0000
pjessen redmine@opensuse.org wrote:

[openSUSE Tracker]
Issue #151996 has been updated by pjessen.

Have now also updated the cached copy in /var/lib/mailman.


tickets #151996: opensuse mailing lists?
https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/151996#change-741433

* Start date: 2023-12-04

It looks to me like the opensuse mailing lists are down. I haven't
received anything since 1 Dec and I don't see anything in the archives
either. I'm talking about support@lists.opensuse.org and
users@lists.opensuse.org

What's going on?

Actions #9

Updated by pjessen 5 months ago

  • Status changed from New to Resolved
  • % Done changed from 50 to 100

crameleon wrote in #note-7:

Here you go:

Thank you! I think we're all done here.

Dave wrote:

I just got a whole bunch of messages from earlier in November plus a
new thread started today, so hopefully things are back to normal now.

I think so. About the mails - yes, I also cleaned up about 200 mails in the shunt queue.
Note to self: We ought to monitor it.

Actions #10

Updated by crameleon 5 months ago

Note to self: We ought to monitor it.

Note to you, I already have some ideas for this.

Actions #11

Updated by pjessen 5 months ago

crameleon wrote in #note-10:

Note to self: We ought to monitor it.

Note to you, I already have some ideas for this.

😱 - something that involves find /var/spool/mailman/shunt -type f | wc -l ? Or monitor the log in /var/log/mailman/mailman.log for SHUNTING messages.

Actions #12

Updated by crameleon 5 months ago · Edited

I have not made my way to Mailman yet, but we should get there. My latest (software) toys collect some metrics for Postfix on mx-test.i.o.o. Here is the dashboard visualizing some of them:

https://monitor.opensuse.org/grafana/d/Ds5BxBYGk/mail-metrics?orgId=1

The log approach for Mailman sounds the most easy. It can be done using mtail.

Actions #13

Updated by pjessen 5 months ago

  • Has duplicate tickets #151687: Problems with the factory mailing list? - Or is it just me? added
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