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Fwd: How to add a new project under specific namespace?

Added by kenhys about 1 year ago. Updated about 1 year ago.

Status:
New
Priority:
Normal
Category:
OBS
Target version:
-
Start date:
2023-03-22
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Hi,

I've posted "How to add a new project under specific namespace?" [1]
Then Rubhan kindly advised me to contact admin@opensuse.org.

[1] https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/buildservice@lists.opensuse.org/thread/UPOJG6UX7KMMISVIGPWT35JV4KPUWFRZ/

Here is the summary:

  • want to create a completely new sub-project "milter-manager" under server:mail
  • want me (kenhys) [2] as a maintainer role for that "milter-manager" sub-project.

[2] https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:kenhys

Could you create above one, please?

Regards,

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Rubhan Azeem rubhan.azeem@suse.com
Date: 2023年3月22日(水) 0:39
Subject: Re: How to add a new project under specific namespace?
To: Kentaro Hayashi kenhys@gmail.com

Hi Hayashi,

Thanks for contacting us. To create a new sub-project under
server:mail you need to contact the maintainers. They can create a
sub-project for you. If you want to create a completely new project
outside of your home project, you can send a request to
admin@opensuse.org.

I hope it answers your query. If that doesn't help then please let us know.

Kind regards,
Rubhan


From: Kentaro Hayashi kenhys@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2023 8:29 AM
To: buildservice@lists.opensuse.org buildservice@lists.opensuse.org
Subject: How to add a new project under specific namespace?

Hi,

According to https://build.opensuse.org/project/new,
When I want to create a new project outside of my home project,
I need to contact via email, but, apparently, it will not work because it
bounces email (noreply@opensuse.org). It seems that it is a known-issue since
2022.

[1] https://github.com/openSUSE/open-build-service/issues/12356

Is there documented instruction on how to request a new project under
existing specific namespace (such as server:mail) ?

What I learned from the existing documentation, it should create a
new project in my case, but I couldn't find official documentation to do it yet.

I've tried to use obs under my home project [2] whether it satisfies
our requirement
in beforehand.

Here are our requirements for milter-manager project:

  1. maintain the package under the meaningful namespace

    • package itself may be maintained under the home project, but it is better to maintain under a more meaningful namespace because milter-manager is related to mail service.
  2. publish multiple versions in the same repository

    • maintain the latest version only is not enough.
    • It may work by submitting multiple versioned package to server:mail namespace, but it causes namespace polutions with milter-manager-1.x.x, milter-manager-2.x.x and more.
    • To avoid such a situation, it should be server:mail:milter-manager project to group multiple versions under it's own project namespace.
  3. want to publish not only openSUSE, but also other distributions

    • It requires configuring project meta information to do, so it can't be satisfied with submitting packages to server:mail. It need to own server:mail:milter-manager project namespace.

To satisfy both of them, I want to create a new project.

Correct me if I understand wrongly.

Regards,

[2] https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:kenhys

--
Kentaro Hayashi kenhys@gmail.com

Actions #1

Updated by crameleon about 1 year ago

  • Category set to OBS
  • Private changed from Yes to No
Actions #2

Updated by kenhys about 1 year ago

Hi,

Is there any person to be assigned for helping with this ticket?
If there is missing information to do, I'll feedback.

Actions #3

Updated by dirkmueller about 1 year ago

I can certainly create such a subproject for you, but before that I'm wondering what the goal is? server:mail is a devel project for openSUSE, and the home project you're mentioning is not actually building anything for a SUSE distro.

are you intending to use the open Build service as a location for an independent software delivery exercise? then a project below isv: namespace might be most appropriate.

Actions #4

Updated by kenhys about 1 year ago

are you intending to use the open Build service as a location for an independent software delivery exercise? then a project below isv: namespace might be most appropriate.

Thanks, as you mentioned, it seems isv: namespace may be more appropriate.

Then, cloud you create isv:milter-manager?

Actions #5

Updated by kenhys about 1 year ago

Hi, @dirkmueller, cloud you create isv:milter-manager? (It is ok for empty project at the moment, I'll import content from home:kenhys manually)

Actions #6

Updated by crameleon about 1 year ago

  • Assignee set to opensuse-admin-obs
Actions #7

Updated by darix about 1 year ago

my proposal would be server:mail:milter-manager to keep it in the scope where the other mail related packages can be found.

Actions #8

Updated by kenhys about 1 year ago

darix wrote:

my proposal would be server:mail:milter-manager to keep it in the scope where the other mail related packages can be found.

Hi, @darix

Currently, openSUSE is not supported yet, isv:milter-manager is an appropriate namespace.

Actions #9

Updated by dirkmueller about 1 year ago

kenhys wrote:

Currently, openSUSE is not supported yet, isv:milter-manager is an appropriate namespace.

darix pointed out earlier to me that isv: is reserved for the original upstream author of the project, which I think you are not (correct me if I'm wrong on that).

in that sense, 'server:mail:milter-manager' appears to be a good tradeoff (it isn't the exact devel project).

Actions #10

Updated by dirkmueller about 1 year ago

project created and assigned ownership to you.

Actions #11

Updated by dirkmueller about 1 year ago

(don't have permission to close the ticket, somebody else needs to do that)

Actions #12

Updated by cboltz about 1 year ago

  • Status changed from New to Resolved
Actions #13

Updated by kenhys about 1 year ago

Hi, @dirkmueller

darix pointed out earlier to me that isv: is reserved for the original upstream author of the project, which I think you are not (correct me if I'm wrong on that).

isv:milter-manager is appropriate because I'm a member of upstream authors. (kou and me - kenhys)
https://github.com/milter-manager/milter-manager/graphs/contributors

Could you reopen this issue (and create isv:milter-manager instead)? (I don't have permission to do so)

Actions #14

Updated by cboltz about 1 year ago

  • Status changed from Resolved to New
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