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[tools][experiment] split dev/infra work management within tools team for better focus size:M

Added by okurz 2 months ago. Updated 25 days ago.

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Feedback
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Start date:
2022-12-06
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Description

Motivation

We have too many sagas on our plate meaning not enough focus. Let's try to focus our dev/infra focussed team members better for limited time for better focus while keeping processes that still benefit everyone

Suggestions

  • In the time range 2022-12 - 2023-02 split the dev/infra work management with separate backlogs and calls where it makes sense, e.g. separate daily, separate estimation, separate unblock
  • Still keep the weekly&retro together because those are good synchronization points
  • Most work for keeping both sub-teams under control would fall onto PO+SM

History

#1 Updated by okurz 2 months ago

  • Description updated (diff)

#2 Updated by cdywan 2 months ago

  • Subject changed from [tools][experiment] split dev/infra work management within tools team for better focus to [tools][experiment] split dev/infra work management within tools team for better focus size:M
  • Status changed from New to Workable
  • Assignee set to cdywan

We probably don't need to estimate this since it's a coordination task. I suggest we discuss it as part of the retro this week and decide on concrete experiments to run.

Feel free to add suggestions here ahead of the call, though. Or just think about what would help you and bring it up on the call.

#3 Updated by okurz 2 months ago

My suggestion:

  • a daily call for infra-mgmt 1015-1030 including covering "unblocking+estimating"
  • usual daily+unblocking+estimating in the usual slots w/o infra tasks

#4 Updated by okurz about 2 months ago

  • Project changed from SUSE QA to QA

#5 Updated by okurz about 2 months ago

  • Project changed from QA to SUSE QA
  • Target version deleted (Ready)

okurz wrote:

  • a daily call for infra-mgmt 1015-1030 including covering "unblocking+estimating"

nsinger prefers a later time, I offered 1300

#6 Updated by okurz about 2 months ago

  • Project changed from SUSE QA to QA
  • Target version set to Ready

#7 Updated by cdywan about 2 months ago

  • Status changed from Workable to Feedback

We discussed it in the retro. An exact split between tickets hasn't been decided yet, instead this will be evaluated as part of this experiment e.g. by excluding infra tickets from the estimations call. It's also left open to everyone to consider joining the infra work. I'm sending out invites for the new slot and updating the wiki accoringly.

#8 Updated by okurz about 2 months ago

I added two split backlog views to https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/qa/wiki/Tools#How-we-work at the end of the section. I am in the process to add the "infra" tag to each ticket that belongs to infrastructure work. The "openQA infrastructure" project alone does not cut it as we have a lot of not-openQA infra work.

#9 Updated by cdywan 25 days ago

I realized I didn't add any notes here recently.

There was some feedback in daily standups. Attendance in both calls is a bit in flux at the moment, sometimes more, sometimes fewer people in both calls. The infra daily tends to be more brief. Some people are definitely interested in both.

Overall vibe is good and we'll continue to see how things evolve.

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