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email bounces from amdlnx60@googlemail.com

Added by pjessen over 1 year ago. Updated over 1 year ago.

Status:
Resolved
Priority:
Normal
Assignee:
Category:
Mailing lists
Target version:
-
Start date:
2022-12-06
Due date:
% Done:

100%

Estimated time:

Description

I get some of these myself and other users have reported them too. For instance last night as a result of my postings to factory.lists.

Diagnostic information for administrators:

Generating server: PRAP251MB0591.EURP251.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM

amdlnx60@googlemail.com
Remote Server returned '550-5.7.26 This message does not pass authentication checks (SPF and DKIM both 550-5.7.26 do not pass). SPF check for [opensuse.org] does not pass with ip: 550-5.7.26 [2a01:111:f400:fe16::200].To best protect our users from spam, the 550-5.7.26 message has been blocked. Please visit 550-5.7.26 https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication for more 550 5.7.26 information. y17-20020a5d6211000000b002425b17d9d5si3030409wru.535 - gsmtp'

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daemon_l 234 (45.4 KB) daemon_l 234 rejection email in Spanish. Dated Dec 18 robin_listas, 2022-12-23 10:55

Related issues 2 (0 open2 closed)

Is duplicate of openSUSE admin - tickets #115238: Mail bounces on mail listResolvedpjessen2022-08-11

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Is duplicate of openSUSE admin - tickets #81082: ML bounce handlingClosed2020-12-15

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Actions #1

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

Actions #2

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

Actions #3

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

  • Category set to Mailing lists
  • Private changed from Yes to No

amdlnx60@googlemail.com is subscribed to the following lists:

announce.lists.opensuse.org
users-es.lists.opensuse.org
users-fr.lists.opensuse.org
users-pt.lists.opensuse.org
kernel.lists.opensuse.org
bugs.lists.opensuse.org
factory.lists.opensuse.org
users.lists.opensuse.org

Note to self:
select * from address where email='amdlnx60@googlemail.com';
select * from member where address_id=733;
select list_id from address,member where address.email='amdlnx60@googlemail.com' and address.id=member.address_id;

The bounce messages also list some more addresses:

Resent-From: <ppapen@hotmail.de>
Resent-From: <gregormeier@outlook.com>

"ppapen@hotmail.de" is subscribed to the following:

users.lists.opensuse.org
users-de.lists.opensuse.org
factory.lists.opensuse.org

"gregormeier@outlook.com" is not subscribed to any of our lists.

Actions #5

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

My guess is that we have some sort of forwarding loop involving "ppapen@hotmail.de" and "gregormeier@outlook.com", somehow ending up going to "amdlnx60@googlemail.com". Because Microsoft does not do SRS, these are then bounced by google.

For now, I'm going to unsubscribe "ppapen@hotmail.de" and see if that does the trick.

Actions #6

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

Actions #7

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

Actions #8

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

Actions #9

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

Actions #10

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

  • Status changed from New to In Progress
  • Assignee set to pjessen

pjessen wrote:

For now, I'm going to unsubscribe "ppapen@hotmail.de" and see if that does the trick.

I have also written to ppapen and amdlnx60 to inform him/them about the unsubscribes.

Actions #11

Updated by robin_listas over 1 year ago

Actions #12

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

  • % Done changed from 0 to 50

robin_listas wrote:

It is working :-)
I just posted to factory and got no bounce.

Ah, that's good news, thanks.

Actions #13

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

  • Status changed from In Progress to Resolved
  • % Done changed from 50 to 100

pjessen wrote:

robin_listas wrote:

It is working :-)
I just posted to factory and got no bounce.

Ah, that's good news, thanks.

I did the same myself, and also got no bounce. Looks good.

Actions #14

Updated by robin_listas over 1 year ago

  • Status changed from Resolved to Feedback

He is back.

I get bounces today. In Spanish, but for mails I posted to the English mail list.

Actions #15

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

robin_listas wrote:

He is back.

I get bounces today. In Spanish, but for mails I posted to the English mail list.

Maybe post a sample - it is pretty odd to receive an NDR in Spanish, this doesn't immediately sound like the same issue.

Actions #16

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

"amdlnx60@googlemail.com" remains subscribed as before:

mailman=> select list_id from address,member where address.email='amdlnx60@googlemail.com' and address.id=member.address_id;
           list_id           
-----------------------------
 announce.lists.opensuse.org
 users-es.lists.opensuse.org
 users-fr.lists.opensuse.org
 users-pt.lists.opensuse.org
 kernel.lists.opensuse.org
 bugs.lists.opensuse.org
 factory.lists.opensuse.org
 users.lists.opensuse.org
Actions #17

Updated by robin_listas over 1 year ago

Sure, I can paste one of the rejection emails in Spanish. I don't know how to attach a file here. Oh, found it. File "daemon_l 234" submitted.

I have been getting these from the start. Some in English, some in Spanish, some times both. I have them all saved, if you want them ;-)

Sorry for delay in answering, the ticket system did not mail me.

Actions #18

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

robin_listas wrote:

Sure, I can paste one of the rejection emails in Spanish.

It is only the Telefonica bit that is in Spanish, and that bit has no pertinent information. :-)

I don't know how to attach a file here. Oh, found it. File "daemon_l 234" submitted.
I have been getting these from the start. Some in English, some in Spanish, some times both. I have them all saved, if you want them ;-)
Sorry for delay in answering, the ticket system did not mail me.

No problem.

Well, it looks like a slightly different twist this time. Now we have a subscriber "amdlnx60@gmail.com" which appears to be forwarded to "gregormeier@outlook.com", which in turn forwards to "amdlnx60@googlemail.com" - which is then rejected by gmail, due to the strict SPF record for "telefonica.net".

However: (from the mailman database):

select list_id from address,member where address.email='amdlnx60@gmail.com' and address.id=member.address_id;
 list_id 
---------
(0 rows)

I can't quite figure out how "amdlnx60@gmail.com" comes into play.

I'm going to unsubscribe "amdlnx60@googlemail.com" from all subscribed lists. I guess we will see if that produces a reaction.

Actions #19

Updated by pjessen over 1 year ago

  • Status changed from Feedback to Resolved

Looks like we may have resolved this one.

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