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Fwd: Tumbleweed Subscription

Added by DocB 11 months ago. Updated 9 months ago.

Status:
Resolved
Priority:
Normal
Assignee:
-
Category:
Mailing lists
Target version:
-
Start date:
2020-12-10
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Morning all,

just a quick question on mail attached: Aubscribe request should not go to the
ML, should they?

Thanks
Axel


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Tumbleweed Subscription (10.6 KB) Tumbleweed Subscription DocB, 2020-12-10 07:45

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#1 Updated by pjessen 11 months ago

  • Private changed from Yes to No

DocB wrote:

Morning all,

just a quick question on mail attached: Aubscribe request should not go to the
ML, should they?

Morgen Axel,

the request was sent to "opensuse-factory+subscribe@opensuse.org", which is the old address. The correct address is "factory-subscribe@lists.opensuse.org".

#2 Updated by pjessen 11 months ago

pjessen wrote:

the request was sent to "opensuse-factory+subscribe@opensuse.org", which is the old address. The correct address is "factory-subscribe@lists.opensuse.org".

Hmm, it is possible this is coming from the archive pages, where we still list the old addresses. I thought I might have been able to fix that quickly, but because we also changed the listnames, it'll take a bit more work.

#3 Updated by DocB 11 months ago

Moin,

Am Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2020, 09:33:20 CET schrieben Sie:

DocB wrote:

Morning all,

just a quick question on mail attached: Aubscribe request should not go to
the ML, should they?

Morgen Axel,

the request was sent to "opensuse-factory+subscribe@opensuse.org", which is
the old address. The correct address is
"factory-subscribe@lists.opensuse.org".

I noticed that the 'list' was missing.....

Was more of a 'heads up' - I feel those should not go through to the ML

Cheers
Axel

#4 Updated by pjessen 11 months ago

pjessen wrote:

pjessen wrote:

the request was sent to "opensuse-factory+subscribe@opensuse.org", which is the old address. The correct address is "factory-subscribe@lists.opensuse.org".

Hmm, it is possible this is coming from the archive pages, where we still list the old addresses. I thought I might have been able to fix that quickly, but because we also changed the listnames, it'll take a bit more work.

OTOH, it might also be coming from e.g. https://de.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailinglisten which still describes the old method. Weird, I do not get an option to edit, despite being logged in.

#5 Updated by pjessen 11 months ago

DocB wrote:

I noticed that the 'list' was missing.....
Was more of a 'heads up' - I feel those should not go through to the ML

The list is open for posting without subscription, so when the address extension '+subscribe' is ignored, it becomes just the old list address which is then redirected. I agree it should not go to the list, but we don't have many options -

  • redirect to new subscribe address - tedious because the listnames don't match. It would also disguise the change, which I think is a bad idea.
  • reject with instructions for how to subscribe to the new list. Again, because the listnames have changed, very tedious to set up.
  • reject without instructions, only a link to our wiki page. I don't know if we can make mailman do that, but it's not very user friendly.

#6 Updated by DocB 11 months ago

Hello Per,

Am Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2020, 09:48:21 CET schrieben Sie:

pjessen wrote:

pjessen wrote:

the request was sent to "opensuse-factory+subscribe@opensuse.org", which
is the old address. The correct address is
"factory-subscribe@lists.opensuse.org".>
Hmm, it is possible this is coming from the archive pages, where we still
list the old addresses. I thought I might have been able to fix that
quickly, but because we also changed the listnames, it'll take a bit more
work.
OTOH, it might also be coming from e.g.
https://de.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailinglisten which still describes the
old method. Weird, I do not get an option to edit, despite being logged
in.

I cant edit either.....needs probably, like the entry page to the wiki,
special admin rights. cboltz comes to my mind.....

#7 Updated by cboltz 11 months ago

Page updated - there was more than one thing to change ;-)

However, I'm quite sure the old subscribe, unsubscribe, ... addresses are still published at lots of places. Therefore I'd still recommend to redirect the old addresses to the new one. It will probably become a big alias list, but you should be able to generate it with a script (AFAIK we already have such a script from the migration, you "just" need to extend it with +subscribe etc.)

#8 Updated by pjessen 10 months ago

cboltz wrote:

Page updated - there was more than one thing to change ;-)

However, I'm quite sure the old subscribe, unsubscribe, ... addresses are still published at lots of places. Therefore I'd still recommend to redirect the old addresses to the new one. It will probably become a big alias list, but you should be able to generate it with a script (AFAIK we already have such a script from the migration, you "just" need to extend it with +subscribe etc.)

I'm not very keen on that idea. The list could be generated, but it hides the fact that we have moved. I would be more tempted to set up an auto reply.

#9 Updated by pjessen 10 months ago

On December 23, I added a recipient check to reject old mlmmj-style subscribe requests with this message:

The mlmmj command interface has been discontinued. For instructions on how to interact with mailman3, please refer to https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_lists_subscription

#10 Updated by pjessen 9 months ago

  • Category set to Mailing lists

Hmm, I guess someone ran a highstate without checking first ...

#11 Updated by pjessen 9 months ago

  • Status changed from New to Resolved
  • % Done changed from 0 to 100

pjessen wrote:

Hmm, I guess someone ran a highstate without checking first ...

Ignore that, my mistake. We have too many servers ... :-)
In the last 30 days, the recipient check triggered 47 times. I'm closing this.

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