2017-06-04 #opensuse-admin [20:00:09] meeting time! ;-) [20:00:21] All people available? [20:01:43] Should we wait for Lars? [20:03:10] Hi Per! [20:03:38] Hoi Christian [20:04:13] Just finished dinner, anybody else here yet? [20:04:28] Lars is missing at the moment. [20:05:16] I'm afraid the public holiday means some people (not only Lars) will be missing today [20:05:26] but let's start nevertheless ;-) [20:05:36] Ok. Then let's start. [20:07:25] Have we got newbies here after the conference? [20:07:40] just digging out the ticket with the checklist [20:07:49] https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/19064 [20:08:19] tnx [20:08:23] 1) Community and questions [20:08:50] nothing? [20:09:04] I guess so [20:09:15] 2) status reports [20:09:35] Who wants to begin? ;) [20:09:42] I'll give a short update on the wiki [20:10:03] I'm sure you've seen the call for testing [20:10:09] yup [20:10:37] the feedback was mostly positive (except a complaint that the login isn't as nice as it was) [20:11:01] also, I noticed an issue with the GitHub extension and disabled it for now [20:11:11] I'm in contact with the extension developer to get it fixed [20:12:48] sorry for the delay, I'm now here [20:13:05] Hi Theo [20:13:11] and that's it from the wiki, so any questions or next topic? [20:13:11] hello per [20:13:19] * tampakrap reads backlog [20:13:51] yes regarding wiki, meanwhile I learned how the login proxy works [20:14:01] so if you want to try it once again together [20:14:37] good question [20:14:42] you see we teach tampakrap things :p [20:14:53] :Thumbs up: [20:14:59] I really like the nice login, but OTOH I'd also like to avoid having more delays [20:15:54] Can you configure it, tampakrap? [20:16:17] I could try :) [20:16:23] Great! [20:16:26] but cboltz doesn't seem to want it [20:16:35] so make up your mind and ping me whenever you want [20:16:40] depends on how fast you can configure it ;-) [20:16:55] depends on how fast you ping me [20:17:11] so, what about today? ;-) [20:17:20] Do you have the time at the moment? [20:17:35] sure [20:17:55] I'll need to do some coding on the wiki side for it (not too much), but the first step is to have the proxy in place so that I can see what exactly it provides (variable names etc.) [20:18:14] cboltz: you could have just asked for that [20:18:33] He did... [20:18:42] you know that I asked for the proxy a while ago [20:18:56] and then finally decided to go ahead with something that just works [20:19:13] so I'd argue it's your fault that I'm using openID now ;-) [20:19:19] Ada_Lovelace: for the varnames [20:19:45] the varnames don't help much without the proxy in place ;-) [20:19:46] for the proxy in general. That was on our topic list. [20:20:19] cboltz: X-USERNAME,X-EMAIL,X-FIRSTNAME,X-LASTNAME, [20:22:18] okay, have we covered the wiki topic? [20:23:01] I think so, I can discuss all the technical details with darix and tampakrap after the meeting [20:23:28] Then pjessen: news about mailing lists? [20:23:50] not much - I am waiting to get external IPs assigned to the test system to get going withj mailman [20:24:09] they are not assigned yet? [20:24:21] Not as far as I can tell. [20:24:38] pff okay [20:24:42] What is the status of the ticket? [20:24:42] ping me after the meeting as well [20:24:54] I did some minor changes to the archiving, nothing much worth reporting on. [20:24:54] which ticket? [20:25:04] for external IPs [20:25:36] there is one open, dunno the number off hand [20:25:41] no idea, I'll check after the meeting [20:26:11] ok [20:26:11] https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/18454 [20:27:04] I don't have any news, too. [20:28:09] 3) Salt Stack for Icinga Checks with ZeroMQ [20:29:38] I and Lars want to do it. I planned it a little bit in the last month. [20:30:21] moin differentreality [20:31:23] hey :) [20:31:43] I found some ways how to integrate it in Salt. But I hadn't the time... [20:32:22] 4) meeting time [20:32:49] I was wondering about that item [20:33:00] Christian and I had a meeting with Christian/ Max at oSC. [20:33:15] We want to have them in our meeting. [20:33:40] They said that Sunday isn't possible for them. [20:34:17] How about Tuesday in the evening? [20:35:09] That would be possible for them. [20:35:21] I guess they're on anopther timezone? [20:35:39] they both live in germany [20:35:44] They prefer something like 19:00 (Germany). [20:36:16] The day was their problem. [20:36:18] fine by me [20:36:56] during the week between 17 and 20 is difficult for me. [20:37:13] Do you work then? [20:37:20] or family? [20:37:38] Family - dinner, after school, pick up from train etc etc [20:38:11] During the workday is fine though, from 8 to 17. [20:38:30] And we work/ study then... [20:39:10] I work too, but I can take that time once a month. [20:39:31] joining a meeting when I'm in the vineyard is a bit ;-) difficult [20:39:52] ah, Christian, don't be difficult .... [20:40:05] there is no wifi on the vineyards? [20:40:24] IoT on each rebe? [20:40:45] the only wifi I found was from a printer in a building ~500m away [20:41:01] and I didn't have the infamous black.pdf with me ;-)) [20:41:16] Once a month on Sunday evening works for me, I have to say. [20:41:56] would tuesday 20:00 german time work for you? [20:42:16] that would only be 1 hour away from what we discussed with Max and Christian, so I hope it would work for them too [20:42:42] Not guaranteed, it depends on the actual day. [20:42:45] +1 [20:43:03] every first Tuesday per month [20:43:37] Yeah, but I don't know how that interferes with my wife's work, or my son's orchestra practice. [20:44:20] is this something you can clarify within the next days, or does it change semi-randomly? [20:44:21] orchestra shoud have a hard time every week like I had it with my youth orchestra [20:44:55] I have to ask, why I we considering shifting the meeting just for two people? Seems like they ought to accomodate us? [20:45:14] You can take your children to your pc with IRC :) [20:45:25] it is random - orchestra every two week, my wife's work - rapid changes. [20:45:53] only every 2 weeks and not a hard day? Strange... [20:46:42] It is usually fixed every two weeks, but varies a little with concerts and other performances. [20:46:52] these two people work at SUSE and do quite some work on openSUSE admin stuff, so it would be really good to have them in the meeting [20:47:31] so not really "just two people" ;-) [20:47:39] They aren't allowed to work on Sunday. And Max should tell us about his work, too. So we can receive a better overview about something like in the next topic. [20:47:57] I wish I wans't allowed to work on SUndays., [20:48:23] But let's not get hung up up on my timing, everyone else seems to be ok [20:48:34] yeah, the joy of being a community member - nobody disallows us to work 24/7 ;-) [20:49:22] So we'll take 20:00 and Per joins if possible? [20:49:33] sounds good [20:49:37] okay [20:49:40] cboltz: just for you i will set up a rule in freeipa that only allows you work for certain hours a day and no weekends! [20:50:01] lol [20:50:43] I'll write a mail to the heroes ML about the changed meeting time - including the question if it's ok for the people who aren't here now [20:50:54] darix: You sounds like my first team lead after education. :-) [20:51:17] No work after 19:00 was the rule. All had to leave the room then... [20:51:37] nostalgia [20:51:43] ... and continue from the home office? *g,d&r* [20:52:00] 5) mirror status [20:52:08] yeah, mirror status. [20:52:19] so pjessen how is your mirror doing? [20:52:37] mine isn't doing too well, still no ipv6 [20:52:42] No. We had free time and 1 person had the phone and was allowed to work from home. [20:53:06] I'm concerned about other mirror candiates not getting any replies or updates [20:53:29] That was the reason for getting Max to our meeting. :-) [20:53:37] got to run. ttyl [20:53:41] (afaik, our mirror is ready to go). [20:54:08] darix: Do you know the status at the SUSE-IT? [20:54:55] there is no progress yet, it waits for me to move scanner from inside suse to the opensuse cluster [20:55:48] until this is done, I'm afraid someone at SUSE has to handle mirror requests [20:55:49] So nobody can do something with mirrors? [20:57:28] it looks like a major bottleneck [20:57:33] I suppose max or martin could handle the requests as they have been doing for some time [20:57:50] I'd really like to see them handled ASAP - the mirrors offer to help us, and the large delay gives them the impression that we don't care :-/ [20:58:12] cboltz: exactly. [20:58:33] "have been doing" shoud be "had been dooing" with the status of the last weeks. ;-) [20:59:33] sure, I'll bring the topic to the SUSE-IT team meeting on tuesday [20:59:45] Ok.Martin isn't allowed to do it any more, he told me at the oSC. [20:59:54] That's Max's task now. [21:00:23] That wud be great, I have seen a few unhappy mirror candidates unable to understand why it takes weeks and weeks [21:00:31] Thanks! And I'll write the new meeting time. [21:01:05] indeed, two of them even mailed me personally (because I had assigned their ticket) [21:01:19] and the only thing I could do was to apologize and ask for patience :-( [21:01:25] same here. [21:02:05] So we need somebody for that and the conference is over. [21:02:34] fyi: I'll be on vacation from 8 till 26 of june [21:03:08] But available on the first Tuesday of July? ;) [21:03:46] I already wondered if you are ever on vacation - whenever I ask something on IRC, you are there ;-) [21:04:09] so enjoy your vacation! [21:05:13] thanks! [21:05:20] Enjoy the vacation! :-) [21:05:28] I guess the summary of the mirror status is "waiting for available resources" ? [21:05:55] indeed :-( [21:06:18] our local mirror is at least 90 days out of sync .... [21:06:34] So you know the reason for having Max in our meeting now. ;-) [21:07:02] No, he needs to be out working, not sat in meetings :-) [21:07:34] ideally both ;-) [21:08:00] anyway - I'd say discussing more about the mirror status doesn't really help [21:08:06] so - any other topic we need to discuss? [21:08:11] agree. [21:08:20] So have gone through all of our topcs. [21:08:29] *topics* [21:09:05] We should be finished now. [21:09:27] The next meeeting will be July 4? [21:09:47] yes [21:10:01] most likely yes, if we don't get lots of objections on the ML [21:10:29] okay, will wait to see how it turns out. [21:11:03] jup [21:11:03] well, enjoy the summer everyone, and what is left of Pfingsten! [21:11:24] Thanks! Enjoy Pfingsten. [21:11:38] Good night. [21:11:57] good night, and thanks everybody!