openSUSE admin

2020-08-04 heroes meeting

[20:00:25] <cboltz> hi everybody, and welcome to the heroes meeting!

[20:00:40] <bmwiedemann1> good evening

[20:00:47] <Redtigra> good evening!

[20:00:52] <malcolmlewis> good evening

[20:00:55] <deneb_alpha> hello :)

[20:00:56] <ddemaio> good evening

[20:01:16] <pjessen> hello all

[20:01:31] <cboltz> the topics are on https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/68730

[20:01:46] <cboltz> does someone from the community have questions?

[20:01:55] <deneb_alpha> yes, me

[20:02:06] <cboltz> ask ;-)

[20:02:35] <deneb_alpha> last meeting I got the AI to try to clarify the GDPR topic

[20:03:07] <deneb_alpha> question is: when this or next week the heroes could be available for scheduling a call with SUSE legal?

[20:04:09] <deneb_alpha> from SUSE legal could be possible on German business time or from 21CEST on

[20:04:23] <cboltz> do you have specific people in mind?

[20:04:32] <deneb_alpha> possibly not on Friday ;)

[20:04:46] <pjessen> I am available, preferably during business hours (8-18)

[20:04:49] * cboltz would be available in the evening, 21:00 sounds good

[20:04:53] <deneb_alpha> cboltz, all the Heroes that should be involved with GDPR topics

[20:05:38] <pjessen> I can do 2100 too

[20:05:51] <bmwiedemann1> including SUSE employees?

[20:06:10] <deneb_alpha> goal of the call is to clarify what is required from a GDPR point of view

[20:06:27] <deneb_alpha> bmwiedemann1, well, yes. you are with 2 hats ;)

[20:07:59] <bmwiedemann1> for me 2100 would work, too

[20:08:26] <deneb_alpha> sounds like a plan. anyone else interested to join?

[20:08:26] <malcolmlewis> would that include Forum admin(s)?

[20:09:08] <deneb_alpha> malcolmlewis, yep. all the people that are administrating openSUSE infra and that could deal with GDPR topics

[20:09:35] <tuanpembual> hello.

[20:10:02] <tuanpembual> can I join too? as progress admin. :)

[20:10:10] * King_InuYasha waves

[20:10:20] <malcolmlewis> ok, just needs a date, time and go-to meeting number to call in

[20:10:22] <deneb_alpha> tuanpembual, :) +1

[20:10:50] <deneb_alpha> time seems to be 21CEST according to what the others wrote

[20:11:17] <deneb_alpha> for a day? any preferences this week (or next) apart from Friday?

[20:11:22] <ddemaio> I'll join as well deneb_alpha

[20:11:29] <deneb_alpha> ddemaio, +1 :)

[20:11:50] <malcolmlewis> 19:00UTC is fine by me

[20:12:03] <pjessen> please also provide a POTS number, I have had trouble getting my mike to work on leap/kde.

[20:12:59] <pjessen> wed or thu is good.

[20:13:00] <deneb_alpha> pjessen, what about our meet.o.o.o instance? do you have issues there?

[20:13:16] <pjessen> deneb_alpha: ah, will have to try that out. it might work.

[20:13:18] <lcp> I can join in

[20:13:47] <klein> sorry, just arrived.... join what?

[20:14:19] <deneb_alpha> pjessen bmwiedemann1 malcolmlewis tuanpembual ddemaio lcp confirmed until now

[20:14:29] <King_InuYasha> I can do 19-21 UTC depending on the day

[20:14:46] <King_InuYasha> as long as it's not this Friday (since I'm giving talks at Nest during that time)

[20:14:56] <deneb_alpha> King_InuYasha, ok, noted

[20:15:36] <deneb_alpha> klein, join... a call with SUSE legal for discussing about GDPR, having shared knowledge and work together on the topic

[20:15:38] <King_InuYasha> I'm free after 11am EDT until 2:30pm EDT

[20:16:22] <King_InuYasha> (15:00 UTC to 18:30 UTC)

[20:16:29] <King_InuYasha> deneb_alpha: ^

[20:16:33] <darix> can I suggest you want to use UTC for all time stamps?

[20:16:52] <King_InuYasha> darix: I did the conversion, I'm listing both because my native timezone is what I know offhand

[20:16:57] <deneb_alpha> King_InuYasha, thanks for the UTC conversion and agree with darix, better to use UTC

[20:17:03] <King_InuYasha> deneb_alpha: I can't think in UTC :)

[20:17:10] <klein> deneb_alpha: argh, I hate legal|GDPR stuff... but, it's part of the work, so, add me to the invite, I will join if possible whenever it is

[20:17:12] <King_InuYasha> it's safer for me to list both in-case I'm wrong

[20:17:44] <cboltz> King_InuYasha: would you prefer a unix timestamp? ;-)

[20:17:48] <King_InuYasha> absolutely not :D

[20:18:01] <bmwiedemann1> 1596565079 now

[20:18:04] <King_InuYasha> oh man

[20:18:07] <King_InuYasha> @.@

[20:18:10] * King_InuYasha dies

[20:18:13] <malcolmlewis> deneb_alpha, so just need a day...

[20:18:49] <deneb_alpha> recap confirmed: pjessen bmwiedemann1 malcolmlewis tuanpembual ddemaio lcp klein King_InuYasha

[20:19:24] <cboltz> not that I'm too keen on this topic, but I'm afraid I'll also have to join the meeting ;-)

[20:19:48] <klein> cboltz: I think we have the same feelings about this stuff haha

[20:19:54] <deneb_alpha> cboltz, sorry, I missed you with the copy/paste

[20:19:55] <King_InuYasha> what, you don't *love* legal matters? :D

[20:20:44] <deneb_alpha> what about Tue 11th at 19:00 UTC?

[20:21:13] <lcp> fine with me

[20:21:52] <King_InuYasha> deneb_alpha: can we push it an hour earlier?

[20:22:22] <cboltz> please don't, I have another meeting that day an hour earlier

[20:22:57] <bmwiedemann1> 2020-08-11 19:00 UTC that is then

[20:23:42] <tuanpembual> fine with me

[20:23:44] <King_InuYasha> that collides for me :(

[20:24:04] <deneb_alpha> cboltz, this week -> 2020-08-06 19:00 UTC ?

[20:24:19] <King_InuYasha> deneb_alpha: that date works for me

[20:24:25] <cboltz> yes, that would work for me

[20:24:33] <King_InuYasha> (August 6, that is)

[20:24:47] <pjessen> works for me.

[20:25:01] <lcp> it's fine

[20:25:11] <malcolmlewis> fine by me

[20:25:41] <bmwiedemann1> also fine with me

[20:25:49] <ddemaio> me as well

[20:26:31] <robin_listas> the meeting is postponed to thursday?

[20:26:44] <deneb_alpha> pjessen? could this week -> 2020-08-06 19:00 UTC work for you?

[20:26:50] <bmwiedemann1> robin_listas: a different meeting

[20:27:05] <robin_listas> ah, ok

[20:27:39] <tuanpembual> aug 6 is fine too.

[20:28:28] <pjessen> deneb_alpha: yes, that works.

[20:28:29] <malcolmlewis> ahh this week is also fine for me

[20:29:50] <deneb_alpha> ok, thank you folks! do you prefer to have an email invitation or one with the jitsi link to admin@ is fine?

[20:30:15] <King_InuYasha> email invitation please

[20:30:24] <deneb_alpha> *individual email I mean

[20:30:24] <King_InuYasha> that way calendar reminds me :)

[20:30:47] <cboltz> heroes@ is good enough for me - and also makes sure people not in this meeting will be aware of the meeting

[20:30:51] <malcolmlewis> email is fine

[20:31:06] <King_InuYasha> deneb_alpha: individual email would be preferred, but sending the calendar invite to admin@ works too

[20:31:19] <deneb_alpha> ok, email to heroes + one to King_InuYasha ;)

[20:31:21] <King_InuYasha> :D

[20:31:39] <malcolmlewis> deneb_alpha, email as well please

[20:31:59] <deneb_alpha> malcolmlewis, +1

[20:33:16] <deneb_alpha> if no-one else has anything else to add on this, I'll give the ball back to cboltz for the rest of your meeting

[20:33:24] <cboltz> deneb_alpha: it's probably a good idea to point legal to https://progress.opensuse.org/projects/opensuse-admin-wiki/wiki/GDPR as a preparation for the meeting

[20:33:34] <deneb_alpha> cboltz, already done

[20:33:39] <cboltz> even better :-)

[20:33:43] <deneb_alpha> I was also sharing the minutes from last call

[20:34:26] <deneb_alpha> thanks again for your time folks :)

[20:35:17] <lcp> thanks for taking care of the legal stuff :P

[20:35:39] <cboltz> ok, so - are there more questions from the community?

[20:36:29] * deneb_alpha hides herself and apologize for the time stolen to the Heroes call

[20:37:25] <cboltz> deneb_alpha: we'll send the invoice ;-)

[20:37:25] <lcp> I don't think we were planning taking care of tickets this month either anyway

[20:38:13] * King_InuYasha shrugs

[20:38:21] <cboltz> doesn't look like there are other questions from the community, so let's continue with...

[20:38:25] <cboltz> status reports about everything

[20:38:33] <cboltz> who has something to report?

[20:38:54] <Redtigra> would you mind me asking abou the mail server?

[20:38:55] <lcp> which one first matrix, tsp or mailman3 :P

[20:39:20] <Redtigra> I know that was discussed last month, but could not join then unfortunately :(

[20:39:25] <pjessen> Redtigra: you mean our new mx[12]?

[20:39:38] <Redtigra> pjessen, yep

[20:39:48] <pjessen> okay, that's me then.

[20:40:42] <pjessen> basically mx[12] are both ready to be switched over.

[20:41:20] <pjessen> I prepared them beginning of july, but decided it would not be a good idea to switch over before I went away on summer hols

[20:41:55] <Redtigra> sure.

[20:42:09] <Redtigra> do you have any timeline in mind then?

[20:42:31] <bmwiedemann1> status from me: I found out how to generate openidc tokens, so if you got an opensuse service that needs auth, we can try it (still not confirmed fully working yet)

[20:43:02] <pjessen> I had hoped to be ready this week, but I think that'll have to pushed at least one week. so Monday next week. will write an announcement

[20:43:35] <pjessen> just timing issues on my part

[20:44:22] <lcp> bmwiedemann1: I have 2 services right now, synapse and hyperkitty

[20:44:40] <Redtigra> pjessen: great, thanks a lot. did not mean to push in any way, just askin'.

[20:44:52] <pjessen> Redtigra: no probs.

[20:45:06] <cboltz> pjessen: will you start with soft_bounce and mx*.suse.de as fallback for some days?

[20:45:22] <pjessen> cboltz: maybe :-)

[20:45:46] <lcp> mailman 3 stuff is up and running, which you can see at http://mailman3.infra.opensuse.org, and it would probably be cool to migrate at some point

[20:46:27] <pjessen> lcp: which list have you tested it with?

[20:46:52] <lcp> I have not tested it with anything outside of testing mailing lists

[20:47:00] <lcp> so basically it exists in the vacuum rn

[20:47:13] <tuanpembual> Status update from me. About progress.I only do css implement, thanks lcp. then install agile plugin and add agile to roles config. and next todo is plugin request from okurz.

[20:47:30] <pjessen> lcp: might be good to to do some real testing before migration :-)

[20:47:47] <cboltz> lcp: I'd say we should switch _after_ we switched over the to mx*.opensuse.org because that makes adjusting the aliases easier (no need to change them on mx*.suse.de)

[20:47:57] <lcp> yeah, that's fair, although I can imagine it's gonna be quite a thing to do so

[20:48:14] <pjessen> cboltz: definitely.

[20:48:14] <lcp> I was also thinking that maybe we could remove the opensuse-* prefixes when migrating ;)

[20:48:16] <cboltz> and then switch over opensuse-test@ which is meant for testing anyway

[20:48:20] <King_InuYasha> lcp: yes please!

[20:48:28] <lcp> I know, blasphemy

[20:48:31] <King_InuYasha> let's get rid of the redundant and useless prefixes

[20:49:09] <lcp> cboltz: you mean test@opensuse.org? >:D

[20:49:09] <King_InuYasha> though the truly blasphemous suggestion would be factory -> devel@

[20:49:14] <bmwiedemann1> and then I have to adapt my procmailrc again?

[20:49:31] <lcp> yes

[20:49:41] <pjessen> lcp: it's only more work, but it's up to you I would say.

[20:49:45] <King_InuYasha> lcp: it should be foo@lists.opensuse.org, so people know it's a list ;)

[20:49:46] <lcp> King_InuYasha: no, that's not happening

[20:49:51] <lcp> factory is way cooler of a name

[20:49:54] <King_InuYasha> haha

[20:50:04] * cboltz wonders if we have any members called programming, announce, bugs etc ;-) - removing the opensuse- prefix would make clashes with member aliases more likely

[20:50:20] <King_InuYasha> cboltz: opensuse.org -> lists.opensuse.org would fix that

[20:50:24] <lcp> cboltz: well, let's do it on case by case basis then

[20:50:33] <pjessen> cboltz: oh yes, it's not an easy change at all.

[20:50:41] <King_InuYasha> so opensuse-factory@opensuse.org -> factory@lists.opensuse.org

[20:51:01] <King_InuYasha> completely sidesteps the collision problem entirely

[20:51:09] <King_InuYasha> since the address is a different namespace now

[20:51:16] <robin_listas> prefixes are nice for filtering on receiving side. Or clashes. Otherwise, use a subdomain.

[20:51:41] <King_InuYasha> hyperkitty will do nice things for you automatically to label emails for filtering

[20:51:52] <King_InuYasha> even web-gmail compatible :)

[20:52:14] <lcp> yeah, subdomain might be a better idea after all

[20:52:14] <King_InuYasha> that is, it adds extra headers that you can use for filtering

[20:52:15] <robin_listas> yeah, i'm thrilled with procmail ;-)

[20:52:39] <pjessen> X-Mailing-List is quite useful for filtering

[20:52:43] <King_InuYasha> yep

[20:53:08] <lcp> pjessen: so I will wait for mx switch then, in the meanwhile we can set up login with bmwiedemann1 and have a testing domain for the frontend side

[20:53:11] <King_InuYasha> what's also cool is that every message you receive from mm3/hyperkitty will also have an X-Archived-At header with exact message URL

[20:53:27] <King_InuYasha> very handy if I want to link a message to someone

[20:54:07] <pjessen> lcp: sounds good

[20:54:13] <cboltz> interesting point - what about links to the current ("old") lists.o.o? Will they stay valid?

[20:54:15] <lcp> lists-test.o.o would be good to have for testing, because it's a pain to work with webapps without ssl ;)

[20:54:16] <King_InuYasha> blech, it's Archived-At, (no X- prefix)

[20:54:27] <lcp> cboltz: nope

[20:54:29] <King_InuYasha> cboltz: we can freeze the old lists forever since we're switching domain prefixes

[20:54:41] <King_InuYasha> just turn off listserv and leave them available as a static archive

[20:55:01] <lcp> that's true

[20:55:02] <King_InuYasha> that's what Fedora did when moving from mm2+pipermail to mm3+hyperkitty

[20:55:07] <pjessen> hmm, I was hoping we would migrate the archives over too.

[20:55:11] <King_InuYasha> pjessen: we would

[20:55:15] <King_InuYasha> there would just be two copies

[20:55:22] <lcp> importing to mailman archives will be fairly easy, because it's just mboxes

[20:55:24] <pjessen> King_InuYasha: ah, okay

[20:55:33] <King_InuYasha> the idea is to not break old links

[20:55:35] <lcp> I just need to write a script for that

[20:55:57] <lcp> well,we would break one old link >:D

[20:56:03] <lcp> the index

[20:56:22] <King_InuYasha> yeah, well, that's fine :D

[20:56:27] <King_InuYasha> I think that's the only semi-dynamic part

[20:56:59] <pjessen> I know it might be old-fashioned, but I wudn't mind seeing the plan for the whole migration.

[20:57:01] <King_InuYasha> lcp: you and I should sit down and come up with mapping for all the lists

[20:57:28] <King_InuYasha> pjessen: it's not a bad thing for us to have a plan

[20:57:37] <lcp> pjessen: I can do that after the meeting

[20:57:51] <lcp> and I can set up the mailing lists on the mailman3 side even today

[20:58:16] <lcp> (just so we have where to migrate that is)

[21:00:36] <robin_listas> Huh, I have to get moving in a few minutes. Do you want me to comment on the progress on the nntp server?

[21:01:07] <lcp> sure

[21:01:24] <pjessen> robin_listas: yes plz

[21:01:51] <robin_listas> Ok, the nntp server is running and open for testing (started, not enabled on systemd), on the forum VM

[21:02:17] <robin_listas> only has one test group accessible only inside infra.

[21:03:15] <robin_listas> I think the next step could be testing that with the gateway to the webforum. I don't know how to do that part.

[21:04:16] <robin_listas> If that works, then we would need to add perhaps one 20 GB partition for the database, add the real groups, and populate them.

[21:04:31] <robin_listas> Then, follow our feet... :-)

[21:05:09] <robin_listas> that's all I have for now :-)

[21:06:24] <bmwiedemann1> lcp: could be good to get some buy-in on the list rename from users? e.g. on opensuse-project?

[21:07:15] <lcp> sure

[21:07:23] <pjessen> bmwiedemann1: +1

[21:07:25] <robin_listas> I need coordinating with whoever handles the web-nntp gateway.

[21:07:55] * King_InuYasha imagines the massive trolling that'll ensue over the post about renaming the lists

[21:07:58] <pjessen> robin_listas: probably me

[21:08:03] <lcp> how should I request oidc metadata from you bmwiedemann1

[21:08:42] <robin_listas> I hoped the forum admins would participate :-?

[21:08:48] <bmwiedemann1> lcp: you can email me. I mostly need the service name (could be an FQDN) and 'scope' - e.g. email or profile

[21:09:03] <lcp> sure, I can get that to you

[21:09:07] <pjessen> King_InuYasha: we already have some lists without the prefix. we have some lists that aren't opensuse-only as well

[21:09:48] <King_InuYasha> pjessen: that never stopped anybody :P

[21:09:54] <bmwiedemann1> King_InuYasha: and bike-shedding - if someone things about renaming factory to devel then someone else might propose project->meta or whatever

[21:10:00] <pjessen> King_InuYasha: quite so :-)

[21:10:35] <lcp> pjessen: we can do multiple domains in mailman3, so maybe we could do something about the lists that aren't openSUSE-only?

[21:10:39] <robin_listas> Ok, I have to get moving. I will read the log later. Bye

[21:10:48] <lcp> cya

[21:10:50] <King_InuYasha> lcp: that would be nice

[21:11:01] <King_InuYasha> e.g. uyuni

[21:11:06] <pjessen> tbh, I would prefer migrating lists as they are and leave the renaming for later. I am a great fan of KISS.

[21:11:33] <King_InuYasha> from experience, I can say it's a bad idea to split up renaming

[21:11:36] <King_InuYasha> from migrating

[21:11:49] <King_InuYasha> people are usually able to deal with that stuff if it's just part of a larger shift

[21:11:55] <lcp> yeah, right now I can tell you it will be easier to do all in one shot

[21:12:15] <pjessen> okay, I'll take your word for it.

[21:13:49] <lcp> we migrated tsp recently, from boosters.i.o.o to a new vm

[21:14:04] <lcp> the only thing really on boosters now is connect

[21:17:27] <cboltz> at least the excuse "but there are other services running behind connect.o.o" is gone now :-)

[21:17:59] <cboltz> but - to open another can of worms, maybe not to be discussed today - we still need a replacement for connect.o.o

[21:18:52] <lcp> that doesn't really help >:D

[21:19:24] <lcp> well, we do have one running >:D

[21:19:34] <lcp> but it depends on the login system we can't use

[21:20:30] <cboltz> great :-/

[21:20:44] <cboltz> any chance we could use it with the current login system?

[21:21:22] <lcp> no, the current login system is a touch too limited

[21:22:22] <cboltz> :-(

[21:23:46] <cboltz> so - any other status reports?

[21:24:40] <lcp> I sent a feature request for splitting v8 libs away from nodejs, so we can use that with other packages, which gets us closer to discourse packaged properly ;)

[21:24:57] <lcp> and it was picked up, it's not like I sent it into the void apparently

[21:26:02] <cboltz> :-)

[21:26:07] <deneb_alpha> lcp, think positive ;)

[21:26:41] <lcp> well, I would hope we could use that login system at some point, but that's gonna be real hard now ;)

[21:29:33] <lcp> I do still stand by that connect replacement though, because it is the best thing we got this far

[21:29:44] <King_InuYasha> I still cross my fingers to finally bring openSUSE Accounts online

[21:31:10] <cboltz> ok, so - next topic?

[21:31:25] <lcp> I guess so

[21:31:41] <cboltz> I'll change the order a bit and pick a (probably) quick topic first:

[21:31:45] <cboltz> Forum (well any) spam reports - where to send for action

[21:32:02] <cboltz> any idea who can/will handle blocking spammer accounts?

[21:32:59] <malcolmlewis> I see a new category in progress.o.o - Accounts and GDPR

[21:34:31] <malcolmlewis> I've already set some of out Forum reports to this...

[21:34:53] <malcolmlewis> out/our

[21:36:32] <malcolmlewis> cboltz, maybe something can be discussed on Thursday?

[21:36:55] <deneb_alpha> malcolmlewis, cboltz +1

[21:37:19] <cboltz> if nobody volunteers today, yes

[21:37:54] <malcolmlewis> cboltz, but the login systems is not in openSUSE infra?

[21:38:16] <pjessen> plus spamming is not really a gdpr issue ?

[21:38:20] <cboltz> right, we'll need someone from SUSE to handle this

[21:38:56] <malcolmlewis> pjessen, but if they spam progress, then wait, they can spam the forum as well...

[21:39:25] <malcolmlewis> we can ban at the forum, but they still have an active account elsewhere

[21:39:43] <pjessen> malcolmlewis: anyone can spam progress.o.o unfotunately. no account required.

[21:40:22] <malcolmlewis> pjessen, all the more to block email in the accounts system

[21:41:32] <cboltz> progress.o.o (especially because of mails to admin@) is somewhat special - but in general I agree that blocking spammers helps for more than the forums

[21:43:04] <malcolmlewis> cboltz, add as an action point on me and will see if can find out more from my SUSE contacts

[21:43:11] <deneb_alpha> and cboltz blocking spammers can be seen as a way to protect the infra/systems I suppose this can be an exception to logging personal data like IP

[21:43:58] <deneb_alpha> (I mean in the GDPR context)

[21:44:17] <malcolmlewis> cboltz, with the SUSE foum and vanilla, it is linked into our go to spam site for spammers and automaticall bans/removes

[21:45:37] <cboltz> so there's basically a "post your spam here to get banned" sub-forum? ;-)

[21:46:16] <malcolmlewis> cboltz, a plugin, checks the account if in SFS it gets nuked and banned AFAIK

[21:47:47] <cboltz> SFS?

[21:47:58] <malcolmlewis> Stop Forum Spam ;)

[21:48:08] <cboltz> ah, ok

[21:48:40] <malcolmlewis> we manually add our ones

[21:49:15] <malcolmlewis> get banned -> get a SFS entry

[21:50:29] <cboltz> makes sense ;-)

[21:50:43] <malcolmlewis> anyway, give me a few days to see if I can find out anything on the SUSE side

[21:51:16] <cboltz> ok, thanks

[21:51:22] <malcolmlewis> n.p.

[21:51:58] <cboltz> is someone awake enough for the last topic?

[21:52:02] <cboltz> review old tickets

[21:52:02] <malcolmlewis> because also see a few tickets for GDPR removal request...

[21:54:53] <malcolmlewis> cboltz, as in no action? I have one open ticket for the forum login, waiting for feedback, but think have that resolved, unmigrated account and using existing email

[21:55:34] <cboltz> if you think it's resolved, then mark it as such ;-)

[21:55:41] <pjessen> cboltz: am awake, but not for long

[21:55:43] <cboltz> in "worst" case you can reopen it

[21:56:29] <pjessen> have been debugging mlmmj most of the afternoon, am tired.

[21:57:13] <malcolmlewis> cboltz, done ;)

[21:57:21] <Redtigra> sorry, need to leave. will read the rest of the log; and will meet with Gerald this week :)

[21:57:34] <cboltz> pjessen: yes, I know it's late ;-) - and it seems to become a tradition that we skip the "old tickets" topic

[21:57:50] <pjessen> cboltz: not a good tradition, but ....

[21:58:13] <cboltz> at least we have a monthly reminder, and can feel bad about it ;-)

[21:58:52] <pjessen> maybe we ought to add them to the agenda, one by one

[21:59:19] <cboltz> that will make the agenda quite long (currently 182 open tickets, no idea how many of them qualify as "old" ;-)

[21:59:24] <pjessen> anyway, goodnight all

[21:59:32] <cboltz> good night!

[21:59:43] <malcolmlewis> ngood night

[22:00:01] <cboltz> thanks everybody for joining the meeting!

[22:02:04] <malcolmlewis> :) until next time

[22:03:50] <tuanpembual> thanks everyone

[22:03:54] <tuanpembual> good morning

[22:05:18] <deneb_alpha> bye

[22:05:23] <deneb_alpha> :)

[22:11:12] <bmwiedemann1> bye